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	<title>Comments on: Static Verification: An External DSL Advantage</title>
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		<title>By: Adia: A Week With Clojure And MongoDB &#171; I am Zef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adia: A Week With Clojure And MongoDB &#171; I am Zef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Clojure DSLs as flexible as external DSLs? Not really. First off, you&#8217;re locked into the Lisp syntax. Second, checking is rather [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Carson Gross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carson Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There was once a Tower, built by man high into the sky...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Carson Gross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carson Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There was once a Tower, built by man high into the sky...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Twitted by webstartupgroup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by webstartupgroup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: How About A Nice Cup Of&#8230; &#171; I am Zef</title>
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		<dc:creator>How About A Nice Cup Of&#8230; &#171; I am Zef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] I thought, maybe it&#8217;s Rails people, that must be it. But, no, I don&#8217;t think so. Because after yesterday&#8217;s post, which is not really attacking Rails in particular, this [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Zef Hemel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zef Hemel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In this post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://zef.me/2371/when-scala-dsls-fail&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://zef.me/2371/when-scala-dsls-fail&lt;/a&gt; I show how Scala DSLs do this, but also where their limitations are. And indeed, the error messages are not good. This would also apply to Haskell.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And of course, it&#039;s a trade off.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this post: <a href="http://zef.me/2371/when-scala-dsls-fail" rel="nofollow">http://zef.me/2371/when-scala-dsls-fail</a> I show how Scala DSLs do this, but also where their limitations are. And indeed, the error messages are not good. This would also apply to Haskell.<br /><br />And of course, it&#39;s a trade off.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: donstewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>donstewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&gt; An external DSL compiler can detect mistakes early&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A case you miss though: this propperty is also true of EDSLs in strongly statically typed languages (like Haskell) too. And it maybe be easier to embed the DSL&#039;s type system in the host language, than to design a coherent type system from scratch.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, error messages are definitely far easier with DSLs.&lt;/p&gt;
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